Submission Holds Discussions

Sounds like an injury waiting to happen. If someone submits its for a reason typically not because they want you to continue to keep them in that situation to satisfy your fetish for inflicting pain. If anyone would ever hold me in a move past my submission that would be our last match ever...

Some might say it could be the person doing the continuing's last match ever as well.

Common sense obviously applies!

yes people we are talking about guys with common sense and agreed before the match takes place. It works out great and pushes you past that point. Now of course its before your injured.

Yes common sense applies to everything

Yes it does. Bring it on cuz

What do you guys think of an agreed match where the submissions are held for an extra amount of time after the tap to grind the opponent down? No rest between subs. Winner is first to grind the loser to verbal quit.

There are positions and holds which aren't actual submissions to which guys will sometimes tap: hundred kilos, for example (if you don't know what is, Google it). Theoretically, it is "safe" to ignore the submission for a few moments at least because your opponent can physically tolerate the situation (just not mentally).

Chokes, also, if you're correctly applying them, would be theoretically "safe" to ignore a submission on and put them out (as long as you can tell when they're out and immediately release them).

Most submissions are some form of joint lock, and these are absolutely not even theoretically safe to ignore because they don't work as submissions until they're on or across the threshold of doing physical damage.

There are some guys out there whom I know are competent, trained, and experienced and I'd trust them in a match enough that I wouldn't tap to a choke; I'd keep fighting and either escape or let myself go out.

But, yeah; this idea generally sounds like a recipe for injury, especially between untrained grapplers.

sounds like an ideal matchup

Let's you and me wrestle until someone submit

Come on down and let's you and me wrestle here in Enterprise Alabama at the Econolodge Inn and Suites or Boll Weevil Inn

I like that one min longer or as you the winner sees fit

I agree Dan.

I'm ready to submit you

you are so hot I would love to wrestle you with the finish of me being choked out and used

Come on over and let's you and me wrestle dantheman777

A hot idea in fantasy and looks hot when seen in pro. However, for those of us who do like sub or promission, a tap almost always means that the person on the receiving end has reached or surpassed their limit in that hold. The risk of injury in this type of scenario is a real concern.

I'm ready to take you on in a one on one toe to toe shoulder to shoulder man to man wrestling action match

I would gladly take you on.

Come on down and let's you and me wrestle

want to take u like that wigan. man enuf? I travel

I want to wrestle you greekwrestler

man I LOVE this

I'm ready to take you on

I'm ready submit you

I'm ready submitted for

Dangerous even if agreed upon; as it could spread to taps being ignored at other times. Taps are used not only as "I give up," but also as an instinctive sign of actual pain, injury, or other distress, which on rare occasion might render the tapper unable to yell out. It should be absolute as a stop sign or a red light. Ignoring a second attempt to tap out could end up with a hard fist as the third tapping..

Spruceman, that was the best possible reply to what was quite a silly post. Well said!